© Profile of Success, Catalog Success magazine, November
2005
Catalog Success: When was the catalog
established?
Harvey Dean: The business was started in
1971.
CS: Where are your headquarters?
Dean:
Pittsburg, Kansas.
CS: What is your primary merchandise?
Dean:
Educational products. We supply curricula, software, hands-on
equipment, teacher guides, books, DVDs, kits, etc.
CS: What is your annual circulation?
Dean: We
produce 15 different catalogs with a circulation over 1 million.
CS: What are your primary customer demographics?
Dean: Our customers are primarily grades six to 10
technology and science teachers.
CS: How did the company/catalog get
started?
Dean: Two other teachers and I started it as
an after-school venture. We each put $50 into the venture. They sold
their thirds to me within the first four years. My wife and I then
went full time in 1975. They both continued teaching and have since
retired.
These two teachers came to me to write a book for them. I was a
young guy at the time. These guys were pretty innovative and
creative. One of them taught high school, the other taught junior
high. We visited together a few nights and finally decided, or
rather I suggested, "Why don't we just start a company?" Because
they'd received such poor service from some major education supply
company, I said, "Why don't we just start a company and do some
creative kits." We had this book, or rather, they had me writing
this book about what they were doing in the classroom that was
innovative. They came to me because I had a minor in language arts.
We decided to take the individual chapters and ideas, and turn them
into kits for teachers. None of us had any business experience or
any brains really. Well, we had brains, but we certainly didn't have
business brains, that's for sure.
CS: What were the kits, exactly?
Dean: Well,
probably the kit that lasted the longest was a wood lamination kit.
It was a process where students could actually laminate thin pieces
of veneer and make something out of it, for example, salad forks and
spoons. We were showing the students how beams in churches had been
built using laminated wood. Then we had one or two on mass
production where there were management and labor components. The
kids would actually set up a production line and use fixtures to
mass produce 40 products. Then they'd set up a little company and
actually sell the products. It was more of a junior achievement
class as you'd think of it now.
Then we had a kit using silicone rubber molds. Back then there
was a lot of casting, in terms of metallurgy. That was the early
stages of casting plastics into room temperature vulcanized silicone
molds, RTV molds. Those were the sort of things we were doing
initially.
We put those first four kits together, and they became fairly
successful. We didn't sell tons of them, but that's what we started
out with. We were all still teaching, so we'd work nights and
weekends. One of the guys had a pretty good-sized garage, so that
became our factory. One of the guys eventually sold us his part of
the company, leaving just two of us for a few years. I bailed out of
education in 1975 and then bought out the remaining guy, although I
didn't have any money. I was borrowing money from anyone I could get
it from. I had an uncle who loaned me some money. Then my wife and I
hired a part-time college kid to help us out. That first year on our
own we had sales of $138,000. I remember that. And we made a profit.
That was the beginning. It's evolved from there.
CS: When did the catalog come into play?
Dean:
Actually when we were all three still together, we decided we
needed a little catalog in 1972, so we put together a 16-page
catalog. But we also included supplies in the catalog that would go
with our kits. Things you'd need to do the projects. These were
things like glue and sandpaper. We printed 3,000 of those, not
full-size, 7" x 9" or something. The font was probably eight point
or smaller, too.
Back then, we didn't have computers, so we had to typeset
everything. The printing company had one of the new versions of IBM
or something. We only sent out about 1,000 of them. I remember we
were working on something one night and one of us looked up at some
shelves we had on the wall. And he said, look at those shelves! And
together we all just had this realization that we knew we could only
send 1,000 catalogs, but we had 3,000 printed. Like the extra 2,000
would do us any good. We had no concept. We had a passion for
putting new concepts and ideas into teachers' hands, which was
unique, especially for the industrial arts.
CS: Where did you find the names to mail those first
1,000?
Dean: We had a directory for a national organization
of teachers in technology education, industrial arts. We also called
some state education departments and got some names in the Midwest
as well.
CS: So you didn't have any experience in
cataloging?
Dean: Oh no. We flew blind for years. Some people
would say we still do. I'll tell you the reason we changed the
catalog when we finally did, though. I got a little flyer once that
had been put together by a couple of guys in Utah. I called them on
the phone. I guess it was a 16-page booklet, full-size, saddle
stitched, and it was laid out well, and very graphically engaging.
So I called the company that had put it together, and it was just
two guys. I went out to Salt Lake City in 1978, and I asked them if
they would design our catalog. And they said no. At least initially.
They said they'd only do the catalog if we would paid them a sum of
money to conduct a survey and profile the people to whom we were
selling, the teachers.
So I gave them the money to do this profile, and they learned all
these things. Mostly it was done on the phone, although they did
mail a survey to an industrial arts teachers' group. After they
found out a lot of things about our customers, they laid out my
catalog. The first catalog they did for us was really great. It was
about four years after they had been doing our catalog that we saw a
tremendous uptick in our sales nationally. I'd say this was 1981 or
1982.
CS: In the first few years of running the business by
yourself, what was your biggest challenge?
Dean: Finances. I
was young, living in a small town in middle America, taking some
huge risks. I didn't understand banking or business. I just had this
passion for education. My personality was such that I got along well
with the bankers. But early on, the first bank really saw me as a
huge risk. I had a difficult time. I was able to get the money to
finance my inventory, which was important, because our entire
reputation was built on the idea of fast, friendly service. And if
you're going to have fast, friendly service, I had the good sense to
know that you needed inventory to ship. I worked at a hardware store
in college, and I learned a few things there about service. My boss
really stressed that it's vital to keep each and every customer. But
financing that way of treating the customer was difficult.
CS: You mentioned in an earlier e-mail that maintaining
a focus on your central business goal was especially difficult in
the early years. Could you expound on that?
Dean: I fell in
love with business in the late 1970s. I started or acquired several
small business ventures. One example is this guy who visited me with
a patent for a retractable vehicle step for tall, four-wheel-drive
vehicles. This was before running-boards were popular. And so I
started a small company and hired three or four people to
manufacture these retractable vehicle steps in the back of the
Pitsco building. Of course, we still did our Pitsco stuff. And there
were three or four other business ventures that I entered into. Of
course, the popularization of running boards sunk that little
business. But I just loved the concept of making something and
selling it.
In the early 1980s I had some health challenges, and during the
time that I was off work I reflected on who I was and what I really
knew about. And I really did have, and still do, a passion for
education. I have several degrees in education. And so I refocused
my life, and said, I'm going to quit playing with all of this stuff
that hadn't made any success anyhow. I just focused on education in
1984 and stayed out of everything else.
CS: How did you change how you did business after
1984?
Dean: I think it was a refocus on innovation. We
changed our byline from "Fast, Friendly Service" to "Innovative
Education." I really refocused on the fact that we were the only
company in this field trying to help teachers with new technology
and new products to engage children. In 1985, a change occurred to
rename industrial arts to technology education. Using innovative
education as our byline allowed us to develop a lot of new products,
as we still do today.
CS: How long were you a teacher before you started the
business?
Dean: I was a teacher for four years in Oklahoma,
then I taught at a university for four years. I got a couple of
degrees post-bachelor's degree, but I was also teaching out there.
CS: Career-wise, what's been your greatest
challenge?
Dean: I think it's been maintaining a dynamic
place for people to work. Where they feel a part of it, and they
feel responsible and appreciated. We're still just a small company,
but when you get more than 50 people, you have to be very sure that
you keep everybody going down the same route, on the same page, with
purpose and passion. As you get to 100 employees, it's still
important, but it's that much harder.
CS: How many new, proprietary products do you come up
with in a given year?
Dean: I'd say between 40 and 50 each
year that we come up with. We have a full manufacturing facility.
That's only 40 people, but they've been at it for a long time, and
they're very loyal. I was out there earlier today for pizza because
they won a competition for United Way Giving. We have good people,
and we manufacture almost 1,000 products.
CS: Do you carry non-proprietary products?
Dean:
That's an interesting story. If you take the products in our big
book, about 380 pages, about 17 percent of the products in there are
proprietary. The rest are things we buy from someone else and
resell. But that 17 percent we manufacture represents a very large
percent of our sales out of that catalog. You wouldn't know it,
because those products are spread all throughout the catalog, but
those are the products that sell best.
CS: Do you market those products more
heavily?
Dean: We do a better job of featuring them. We have
some champion products on double-page spreads.
CS: Do you have teachers on staff developing new
products and curriculum?
Dean: Yes, we have 10 teachers on
staff. They write curricula for our system side. We have on that
team a staff of about 30, the rest of which are programmers,
editors, videographers, digital artists. But 10 of them are
teachers. The teachers are the leaders of the development teams for
new products.
CS: What's your biggest business challenge in 2005, and
how do you plan to resolve it?
Dean: Our ability to
communicate our systemic solutions so school districts and
administrators will understand the success they can have with them.
We have research data from 10 different studies we've done. We have
conferences. All of that helps our sales force. But it's a big
country, and we're a little company. It's part of that conundrum:
How do you best communicate a solution like ours?
The catalogs sell the products very well, but when you talk about
selling a system, you're talking about changing a paradigm where the
teacher's been in charge of delivering the curriculum. The
assumption is that the teachers are going to teach everything in a
textbook, and they'll teach 10 different textbooks each year. The
fact is, there was a study done that looked at five eighth grade
teachers teaching science — same textbook, same class, same lesson
plans. They surveyed the teachers at the end of the year. They found
that only 20 percent of the content was actually taught in every
single class. Only 20 percent of that content was contiguous across
the groups as having been taught. Only 20 percent! That's not to say
that the other 80 percent that the teacher taught wasn't good
content, but if you're supposedly teaching to a lesson plan, you'd
hope that each class gets 100 percent of what's in that lesson plan.
With our solutions, we can assure you that the content will all
be delivered exactly the same for every class all day long. And it's
not teacher delivered, but student driven. It's been difficult to
get that message out, but we're tenacious. And we've done all right,
we have more than 4,000 labs in schools throughout the United
States. I'm talking about a room full of curriculum, workstations
and computers where kids are using them every hour of every day. And
we only started that division in 1990. I love the challenge. We will
get our message out there.
CS: What are some keys points to your
success?
Dean: I think in my case, and I do believe this, you
always have to acknowledge that sometimes there's just divine
intervention. I'm just not all that bright when it comes to
business.
At the core of it, though, a lot of it has to do with key people.
I've been blessed to have good people at the right time in the right
places. That's a big part of our success.
The reputation for being honest is important for Pitsco. We don't
quibble, and we do turn things around quickly when customers have
problems. We get only a few calls a year from irate customers. Nine
of out 10 times, they stay a customer, because we admit our
mistakes. Either myself or my COO takes care of that customer if
they're really upset. We have high standards for order turnaround.
I'm a big proponent of taking care of the customer.
I think in the last 10 years, the thing that's allowed us to be
more successful than the previous 20 is that we have a management
program in place that moves the locus of responsibility to the
teams. I believe that has been a significant reason for our growth,
and the ability to grow without huge stresses internally. I
practiced that when I coached track, and it's an integral part of
our educational solutions.
We have a program we run every year called our HOT program. That
stands for Harvey's Official Targets. Every person has a team, and
each team has targets. Those targets are spelled out in very
formalized ways. We give monthly reports of the targets we've
attained, and the target's we've lost. There's a company-wide
acceptance that as an employee you are responsible. Once you know
what your responsibilities are, you're expected to do them. There is
a mechanism in place to reward you for having achieved them at the
end of the year.
CS: Have you had any mentors that you credit with your
success in business?
Dean: Probably the best one was the
owner of a hardware store where I worked during college. The owner,
he was adamant about service. People would come into that old
hardware store, and if they had a clock they had bought 20 years
prior that needed a replacement screw, he'd get it. He would type
out a letter on an old-fashioned typewriter, send it to the
manufacturer, and he would get them that screw. I've always been
impacted by that. And he could charge a higher price for his
products because he would get that screw for you. Mr. Hanes was a
long-time influence on me, just by the way he treated customers. I
still have a passion for that.
CS: In what ways do you think you've
succeeded?
Dean: I measure that mostly by the success of the
people who report to me. I have four vice presidents, and I really
like to see them doing their jobs, feeling their responsibilities,
and doing their jobs well. I enjoy the encouragement they give me
and being able to give it back to them. I enjoy getting their
reports. That doesn't mean we don't disagree. It gives me a lot of
pleasure to see them grow. I get pleasure from seeing these people
succeed. We have a very positive company culture. I enjoy that.
CS: What's your definition of success?
Dean:
Seeing that this year we've served 6.5 million students who will use
products that we've shipped to schools in the U.S. makes me feel
successful. Conversely, while that's a lot, it makes you realize how
much potential there is out there. I think that's another
encouragement. If we're serving more than 6 million, we know we can
serve more. It's not about money. Success to me is knowing that
we're helping students across the U.S. and knowing we have the
potential to reach even more.
CS: If a new cataloger asked you to name the keys to
success, what would you say?
Dean: I think first, and this
may not be the model that most catalogers think of, I think the key
is to have some unique selling proposition. Unique and innovative
products you can build the rest of your product line around are
important. In our catalogs we have several kinds of kits for
building a CO2 powered dragster. We started that with one little
kit, and now we have 10 or 12 different kits that are versions of
that kit. On top of that, we have about 40 pages in our big book of
support items for that model dragster activity. Track systems, smoke
tunnels, wind tunnels, decals, different kinds of axles, wheels, it
goes on and on. We have 40 pages of products that are line
extensions of that one good idea.
I would say, I'd build a new successful catalog around an idea
that's unique and innovative. We don't manufacture all those line
extension items, but they fit in well.
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